Another Biden macaca moment

If Joe Biden was not misquoted in his NY Observer interview, his career in the Unites States Senate should come to an end.  Here is his comment on Barack Obama:

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," he said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

Therefore, up to this point, mainstream African Americans have been neither "articulate" nor "bright" nor "clean" nor "nice-looking."

Remember his derogatory comments about Indian Americans and convenience stores?

http://www.observer.com/20070205/2007020 5_Jason_Horowitz_pageone_newsstory1.html



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He is AWFUL. He also said Jon Edwards doesn't know what he is talking about, and that Clinton's Iraq plan is a catastrophe. He insults African Americans. He trashes other Democratic candidates.  He can't shut up - that WashingtonPost article last week about the other senators on foreign relations having to listen to his monologue was priceless. So, the question is, has there ever been a candidate who was forced out of a race the same day he got in?  The only good news is that if we have to have one idiot in the race, at least is the candidate with the least chance of winning.      


by nascardem on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 02:35:00 PM EST

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I find Biden to be an easy target. He seems like the well spoken eager to please guy in your class who would alway run for Class president(even if someone else wins).

Having said that, I still gotta come to his defense on the Indian American comment. It was not derogatory. It was just a goofy ass silly comment. I am Indian American and found nothing offensive about it.

As far as the Obama comment, I think the key word is how would you interpret mainstream. Jesse Jackson would qualify as mainstream in the 80s and remember he seemed to be more articulate then than he is now with his mushmouthed interviews lately. Sharpton is certainly cleaned up nicely, though he he won't be considered mainstream.

But goofy ass Biden seems to have forgotten mainstream politicians like Charles Rangel who is bright and articulate and "clean".

But deep inside, you know that's what a lot of whites were thinking when they saw Obama speak in 2004. Seriously. Some of the praise back then seemed a little condescending to blacks.


by Pravin on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:26:53 PM EST

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The point is why would you have to point out that Obama is articulate? Does anyone say that about Biden or Edwards or clinton? "Boy Hillary Clinton sure is articulate!"

It's acting as if you assume that a black political leader is NOT articulate.


by adamterando on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:31:16 PM EST
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Trust me, I do not follow Biden's line of thinking. The real question is how many whites share that view? I personally think there was some pandering going on when some white people praised Obama in 2004. I am not saying all of you think that way. But I did hear from some "oh how well spoken he is." Personally for me, I was more comfortable when whites would praise Obama's speeches as "inspiring" than "well spoken".
I am glad Biden said that. The guy is incapable of hiding his trueself for long. But I would not call him a major racist. He obviously has prejudices he is not even aware he has on a conscious level.  I would rather have someone be like that than calculated. It exposes what i assumed some people thought all along. Maybe Biden can think carefully while he ruminates over the ruins of his second rate attempt at a presidency why he thinks the way he does.
by Pravin on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 03:57:06 PM EST
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One reason that Obama is "articulate" is that it clearly differentiates him from other candidates in the race (particularly "Delaware is a slave state" when I campaign in South Carolina Joe Biden).  Jesse Jackson was the most articulate Democrat of his time but was less mainstream in his presentation and more church-style.

Biden is (probably) attempting to say that he has more experience and more content although he does not speak as well or look as good.


by David Kowalski on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 02:50:50 AM EST
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I am a rhetorical wildman around here, but I am always more cautious about my wording than most of these politicians. Just an observation. I don't know what to make of Biden's comments. Which is not a great thing.

I guess a lot of people in politics instinctively begin using code-speak. And they end up coming off like bigots, who love code-speak. I try to be clear about things, even when I dealing with controversial things -- no -- especially when I dealing with controversial things. I also try to be clear about how certain, or not certain, I am about things.


by blues on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 05:18:08 PM EST

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This coming from the guy who plagiarized speeches when he ran twenty years ago.  Now he perpetuates the view that blacks are inarticulate and dirty.  In 1988 he supported the confederate emblem on the SC flag.  He bragged that his state wasn't a "liberal notheastern state," but was in fact a slave state.  La la la, connect the dots.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 07:45:23 PM EST

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This would matter -- except Biden has no chance.

As they say, one's an accident, two's a trend...


by v2aggie2 on Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 10:57:56 PM EST


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